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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:36:00 -
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This is blatantly an exploit......
Note: it is easily preventable... just turn on auto-reject convo's.
IMO, if CCP's logs back up your claim, all players that convo'd you should receive a 5-day ban, and CCP should should publicly declare this an Exploit. To all the players involved, the "I didn't know it was an exploit" card is NOT an excuse! You have to be a complete imbecile to not realize that abusing convo mechanics to disrupt another player's ability to control their ship is just wrong!!! You deserve the ban! |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.03 23:19:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
This is blatantly an exploit......
Note: it is easily preventable... just turn on auto-reject convo's.
Cap pilots in question had auto-reject on, as well as no-convo's from unknown players. System still got bogged down, players still lagged out.
This was always a fear of mine when flying in the AT matches, and thought we were protected by turning on the auto-rejects....
A couple of thoughts:
1.) This needs to be moved to the Assembly Hall, so it can be officially brought to CCP by the CSM.
2.) It WILL get support there, and then we can poke, prod, and strongarm the CSM to bring this up to CCP.
3.) If this process fails, and it's not declared an exploit addressed by CCP prior to the Winter Own3D Tournament, it would be terribly inappropriate for some large "hooligan"-type organization to sabotaging a broadcasted match using this technique....
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.04 03:24:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Fascinating. Just so happens the other day I was out roaming with my Sabre. I jump in system and warp to a gate which has a sling bubble on it and Hawk on scan. No problem, I was looking for a little action. As I exit warp and land in the bubble, guess what happens. I get mass convo spammed to hell and back, even though the Hawk and me were the only one in system. My client didn't lag out, but it was non-stop convo spam that kept me from actually fighting the Hawk. All the convo requests were from Goonswarm Federation pilots. Turns out they have a channel with a lot of guys in it. So when they want to convo bomb you, they drag and drop your name in it and then when the timing is right, call for the convo bomb. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14732377Now granted I was a bit upset by this tactic, but now I simply check the box in the ESC menu that blocks invites for when I PvP. No more problems. So if you want to pursue this path of claiming exploit and things of such nature, be sure to mention how you and your buddies have been doing it the whole time. I will admit these never ending tears are delicious.  Bottom line; don't throw rocks from a glass house.
The tactic is in extremely poor taste, is blatantly an exploit, and even if you can prevent it by turn on auto-reject, people that even attempt to do it should be straight up banned for several days when reported, and longer if they keep the reprehensible behavior!!
It's not a legitimate use of the chat feature, and its not a grey area... this is very black and white, and the only question is can CCP verify these events, and where is the line in the sand to distinguish legit chat attempts from convo bombs....
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.04 03:28:00 -
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Dar Saleem wrote:If people were retroactively banned for doing this there would be no goonswarm / CFC
And the carriers weren't lost because of lag, they were lost because capped out by about a 100+ man ahac fleet. They were stupid and were repping from 20-30km from the POS shield
I don't care if half of the nullsec player base is banned (for like 2-5 days), Everyone knows this is not a legit tactic, and you don't deserve "protection" just because ccp hasn't declared it an exploit yet.... Our average player is way older than some junior high hillbilly, and CCP shouldn't be treating us like children who don't know better.
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:23:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:[quote=Nikk NarrelThis is a straw man argument.
We are not talking about deception on a level between characters at all here. Fraud is not involved here.
This involves a group of players abusing a game function to disable the client of another player, so that they can take advantage of the resulting situation in the game.
Attempts to justify it based off of arguments similar to "He did it to me first", fail to recognize the need to stop the problem.
Don't waste time pointing fingers. Fix it.
Ok turn on auto reject then.
Not hard at all.
Then when your client crashes it is your own fault
Or you could blame telecomms for using copperless fiber optics in their quest to save money.[/quote]
First off, some people claim autoreject doesn't prevent a convo bomb from disrupting your client...
Second, , we should have to turn on auto-reject to NOT be convo bombed....
Convo bombing is just straight up abusing a game feature to inhibit the game client of another player. This is a clear violation of the terms of service.... and it should be addressed by CCP.
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.18 19:00:00 -
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There is an interesting article on Mittani's website discussing this.
It includes some GM correspondence, and it appears the Senior GM's are considering this an exploit! |
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